The dilemma of Palestine and the United Nations Where do Britain, Israel, the United States stand on Palestine's bid for statehood? In a televised speech in Ramallah, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas confirms that he will ask the United Nations to formally recognise the state of Palestine when he visits the General Assembly next week. In a televised speech in Ramallah, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas confirms that he will ask the United Nations to formally recognise the state of Palestine when he visits the General Assembly next week. Photo: REUTERS By Tim Montgomerie 7:55PM BST 17 Sep 2011 Comments99 Comments What are the Palestinians trying to achieve at the UN this week? In the next few days Palestinian leaders are set to apply for full membership of the United Nations. Just two nights ago, Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, used a televised address to supporters to describe full UN statehood as “our right”. Hillary Clinton and the US diplomatic service have been working overtime to discourage the application. Although America has the power to veto full membership, it doesn’t possess enough allies to stop Palestine achieving observer status. Why does America object? Washington fears that granting statehood will endanger the already slim prospects for a resumption of face-to-face talks with Israel. Related Articles Palestinians defy Barack Obama and push ahead for their own state 16 Sep 2011 Israel reinforces West Bank ahead of Palestinian UN bid 16 Sep 2011 The Palestinian vote at the UN - how it would work 16 Sep 2011 Last-ditch US bid to prevent Palestinians from statehood bid 15 Sep 2011 The folly of the Palestinian statehood bid 15 Sep 2011 Israel warns of 'harsh' consequences of Palestinian UN bid 14 Sep 2011 Israel has a justifiable suspicion of the United Nations. The UN’s human rights body was, until recently, chaired by Gadaffi-run Libya and has repeatedly censured Israel while remaining silent on the crimes of regimes such as Syria. Hillary Clinton fears that a Palestinian delegation will harness the UN’s anti-Israel sentiment to pursue relentless acts of “lawfare”. Even observer status could give Palestine the right to attempt multiple, vexatious prosecutions of Israel through the International Criminal Court. What’s Britain’s position? Although British Conservatives have traditionally been closer to the American world view, there is something of a shift taking place as Anglo-French relations become warmer and deeper. In Benghazi, Libya, on Thursday this shift was evident as David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy stood before an ecstatic, mainly Muslim crowd, championing the most exciting manifestation of the Arab Spring so far. Foreign Office advisers have warned William Hague that Britain’s improved status in the Middle East could be compromised if Britain takes Israel’s side at the UN. Consequently, the UK has been leaning towards a compromise position drafted by Paris that would give Palestine observer status. The thinking behind this position was summed up by Alistair Burt, the foreign office minister. “It would be a disaster,” he said, if after the UN process “one side proclaimed triumph and the other reacted to a disaster”. Will Israel accept a compromise? No. Israel is feeling even more vulnerable than usual at the moment. Last week’s attacks on its embassy in Cairo were bad enough. Worse was the new Egyptian regime’s failure to even answer Israel’s increasingly desperate calls when the rioting was at its worst. Relations with Turkey have become very hostile and the international community seems unable to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons – weapons that Tehran has promised to aim at Tel Aviv. Israel points out that the Palestinian authority has recently brokered a deal with the terrorist-sponsoring Hamas. It notes that Abbas has said that he’ll exclude every Jew from any Palestinian state. Israel believes that it would be wrong for the international community to reward this kind of extremism. What’s the view of Tory and Liberal Democrat MPs? At the top of the Government, Iain Duncan Smith, Liam Fox, Michael Gove and George Osborne are steadfast supporters of Israel and they are joined by many Conservative backbenchers. There are, however, a handful of increasingly vocal Tory critics of Israel. Their hand has been strengthened by the sometimes bellicose rhetoric of Israel’s prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu and also by the yellow half of the Coalition. Nearly all Liberal Democrat MPs support full statehood for Palestine. Chris Huhne has said he is “entirely sympathetic” with Abbas’s objective, and Ming Campbell has described Alistair Burt’s middle-of-the-road position as profoundly disappointing. Nick Clegg himself is thought to be under pressure from his wife, who has previously advised the Palestinian Authority. What does Cameron do? The Prime Minister probably won’t veto Palestinian statehood for fear of causing a dangerous rift with the Liberal Democrats. He’ll also have noted threats from Saudi Arabia to reduce co-operation with the West if Palestinian hopes are dashed. On the deep blue sea side of his devilish dilemma, he knows he risks his government’s relationship with Israel. Cameron has been skating on thin ice for some time with friends of the region’s pre-eminent democracy. Neither he nor William Hague are seen as reliable allies. The Prime Minister caused upset last year when he likened Gaza to a “prison camp”. More recently he caused offence when he resigned as a patron of the Jewish National Fund. With all key parties gathering in New York this week, the PM’s hope is that a showdown vote can somehow be avoided. He hopes that the whole drama will force all sides back to the negotiating table. That seems unlikely without some major concession from Israel on, for example, the building of settlements. And without major concessions, Abbas is unlikely to spare Cameron or Barack Obama from having to make some very awkward choices. Share: inShare1 Tim Montgomerie World News » Middle East » Palestinian Authority » Comment » Columnists » Share: inShare1 Ads by Google HSBC Offshore Living Abroad Can Be Challenging - Find Out How HSBC Can Assist You. Offshore.HSBC.com/Expat-Experts Best Expat Interest Rates Independent Report Gets You The Best Interest Rates On Your Savings www.OffshoreInvestmentDesigner.com Expat? £100k+ UK Pension? UK Pensions, Savings & Investments. Free Report. Expats Download Now! QROPSpensiondesigner.com/Telegraph 99 comments Add a comment Comment with a Telegraph account Login | Register with the Telegraph Alternatively... Comment with one of your accounts Showing 25 of 99 comments Order by Real-time updating is enabled. Follow with email Follow with RSS timothy hardacre 6 seconds ago why the repetitive nonsense about Iranian nuclears pointed at Israel.There has been no evidence of this. Report Recommend apearman 59 minutes ago Recommended by 3 people If (but not in my lifetime) America removes support from Israel then integrity and morality instead of fear will point the way for the rest of the world to vote in the way they should at the UN Report Recommend oncebitten 49 minutes ago Recommended by 3 people You're having us on - surely!? What have integrity & morality got to do with the UN. But thanks - it was a good try. Perhaps (but not in my lifetime) a world body which has replaced the UN will be able to match the standards sought - but increasingly never attained - by the founders of the UN Report Recommend victoriaw Today 07:42 AM Recommended by 6 people The Israeli position is to do all it can to avoid returning to the negotiating table - look, for example, at their rejection of even the first step: to cease settlement building in the occupied territories.What are the Palestinians supposed to do? They have the choice of watching the West preach the gospel for freedom and democracy to the rest of the Middle East and accepting that somehow they are different, or taking action. The former means another 20 years of humiliation and persecution, the latter offers them hope and sthe real prospect of getting their issues dealt with outside the realm of the US and Israel. Of course they must pursue statehood through the UN, and the UK should give them our vote. Report Recommend Dr_Drug 13 minutes ago OK , I had a look at their rejection of even the first step: to cease settlement building in the occupied territories. When I look, I see Israel DID in fact freeze settlement building for 10 months, in a bid to re-start the moribund negotiations with the Palestinians. Guess what? The Palestinians refused to return to the negotiating table. Report Recommend thepurleyking 13 minutes ago Balderdash! The West Bank is NOT an "occupied", but a "disputed" territory! Every time Israel has made a concession (like handing Gaza over and FORCIBLY removing Israelis to do it); they've not got a SINGLE concession in return. (Just over 10,000 rockets fired into Israel). The true LEGAL position appears below. (Not that you'll read it, as it contains FACTS!) Below that you will (sorry - COULD if you weren't so bigoted!) read about the machinations of the Criminal United Nations. They don't vote because of the rights/wrongs of a situation; merely to try to destroy Israel and harm the USA (the biggest contributor to aid programmes in the world!) 1) The legal basis for the establishment of the State of Israel was the resolution unanimously adopted by the League of Nations in 1922, affirming the establishment of a national home for the Jewish People in the historical area of the Land of Israel. This included the areas of Judea and Samaria and Jerusalem, and close Jewish settlement throughout. This was subsequently affirmed by both houses of the U.S. Congress. (2) Article 80 of the UN Charter determines the continued validity of the rights granted to all states or peoples, or already existing international instruments (including those adopted by the League of Nations). Accordingly, the above-noted League resolution remains valid, and the 650,000 Jews presently resident in the areas of Judea, Samaria and eastern Jerusalem reside there legitimately. (3) "The 1967 borders" do not exist, and have never existed. The 1949 Armistice Agreements entered into by Israel and its Arab neighbors, establishing the Armistice Demarcation Lines, clearly stated that these lines "are without prejudice to future territorial settlements or boundary lines or to claims of either Party relating thereto." Accordingly, they cannot be accepted or declared to be the international boundaries of a Palestinian state. http://www.aish.com/jw/me/Unde... But don't worry; Christians are next for destruction! http://www.americanthinker.com... Report Recommend stevemakler Today 07:37 AM Recommended by 3 people How well did appeasing the barbarians work in 1938? Report Recommend imnokuffar Today 05:51 AM Recommended by 5 people The Palestinians do not want peace and in common with the rest of the Arab world want war with Israel. If they succeed in this aim then the consequences for all of us will be catastrophic because if push really comes to shove Israel will not go down on its own. After all what has it to lose whens its land and people are both threatened with extinction. They do not want a two state solution they want a one state solution and a "Final Solution" to the Jewish "problem". This from the Hamas Charter. "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory)."The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. ""There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors." They are led by a bunch of Islamofascist terrorists, murderers and subscribe to a medieval cult that hates not just Jews but all non-Muslims. The fact that the Palestinian people voted these vile pieces of filth into office should give any sensible or informed person cause for concern. The Palestinians and the Muslim Brotherhood see the Arab spring as a springboard from which to further prosecute their ongoing Jihad against Israel and the west. The Islamofascists and their liberal/Marxist allies in the west do not want "Jaw Jaw" they want "War War". Report Recommend oncebitten 44 minutes ago Recommended by 1 person Could I just add that the Arabs don't necessarily want war with Israel - rather, they lust for the elimination of Israel. So they're quite happy to use the instruments provided by the West & democracy - e.g. the Human Rights Act - to utilise what they can get. This is also a general tenet of Islam - the Islamisation of Europe proceeds afoot without war as we knew it. Then of course, there are the "useful idiots" in the West promoting their cause 'cos it enables them to vent their antisemitism whilst hiding under a cloak Report Recommend thepurleyking 9 minutes ago Correct, and the Islamisation of Europe will be complete in 40-50 years. The "useful idiots" will then have the choice of converting (and being painfully circumcised) or dying! http://britainfirst.org/muslim... Report Recommend cecile10 Today 08:21 AM Recommended by 1 person Even supposing that Palestinians want what you say they want - the elimination of Israel - how do you suppose they would achieve this? They're hardly going to march into Israel like the Germans marched into Czechoslovakia given that they have no army or arms to speak of and Israel has one of the most powerful armies in the world. Whilst the world empathises with Palestinians in their stateless and occupied plight Israel will get little sympathy and only grudging support from even its staunchest allies. With a Palestinian state alongside such attitudes would change to Israel's advantage. Report Recommend thepurleyking 2 minutes ago They don't want "alongside"! Don't you understand, they want "instead of"! What right do you all have to denigrate Israel, under attack and threat for 60+ years? It's one of the finest countries in the world and a true democracy; not like the pretend ones in Europe where, after being elected, your governments rob the people and do what the heck they want! Read these - if you're not TOO bigoted! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tec... http://www.unitedwithisrael.co... Report Recommend glenda14 Today 04:47 AM Recommended by 4 people So the Liberal Democrats do support the Palestinians! Thank God I did vote for them in the last Election. Report Recommend humphrey_n Today 05:26 AM Recommended by 2 people That's because there is no LDFI unlike CFI.. (good for them). As troublesome as it is for politicians to possess moral consciousness I think the tide is turning.. Report Recommend thepurleyking Today 06:59 AM Recommended by 1 person Yes. And when the Muslims have eliminated the Jews; who do you think will be next in line for their attentions? http://www.americanthinker.com... Report Recommend cecile10 Today 08:26 AM Recommended by 2 people Exactly how will the Muslims eliminate the Jews? Report Recommend thepurleyking 1 minute ago Attrition! Report Recommend tl669 Today 04:44 AM Recommended by 3 people US (UK and the like) are the most unprincipled of all. They are the most devious, most deceitful that you can find anywhere. They’re simply spineless, belligerent and untrustworthy that we all should be careful when dealing with them. The US (UK and the like) also illegally invaded Iraq (while invading Iraq illegally, they also abused the captured Iraqis to inhuman and degrading insults) which simply shows that they’re criminal and they’ll do anything illegal to suit themselves, to achieve their unholy aims. Now, can we trust criminals like US? The answer is obvious. Each time you trust US (UK and the like), each time you will be cheated and slaughtered. The US (UK and the like) arrogantly and steadfastly believe they’ve the right of “an-eye-for-an-eye” belligerence to attack others as they see fit. Well, no one should be surprised that the terrorists/extremists also believe they’ve the same right (not to mention that terrorists/extremists always are the victims and sufferers of all the injustice from the West which make them feel even more determined to stand up to defend themselves against all these US (UK and the like) attacks). The US (UK and the like) strongly believe that they’ve sovereignty. Well, no one should be surprised that the Afghans (or Iran or any other countries) also strongly believe that they’ve sovereignty and they’re undoubtedly prepared to die to defend their sovereignty against foreign invaders (like US, UK and the like). It is pernicious nonsense that US (UK and the like) have the right to do whatever they like while other nations are not even allowed to think they have the same right. Let us take a good look how US behave and act: The US will not hesitate to use nuclear weapons to attack another country (bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki)….The US is happy to massacre unarmed and innocent civilians (The My Lai Massacre was the mass murder conducted by a unit of the U.S. Army on March 16, 1968 of 347 to 504 unarmed citizens in South Vietnam, all of whom were civilians and a majority of whom were women, children (including babies) and elderly people. Many of the victims were sexually abused, beaten, tortured, and some of the bodies were found mutilated)….The US is happy to use chemical weapons to attack others: the use of Agent Orange during Operation Ranch Hand during the Vietnam War was a violation of laws regarding the use of chemical weapons in the 1907 Hague Convention, the 1927 Geneva Convention, and the 1949 Geneva Convention.The US is happy to detain people without charges (like Guantánamo Bay detention centre where most prisoners are held without charges in a super-maximum security prison, even though the U.S. government has acknowledged that many have been cleared for release) for as long as the US sees fit…. The US (UK and the like) are also happy to illegally invade Iraq (while invading Iraq illegally, they also abused the captured Iraqis to torture and degrading insults). For such illegal invasion (and killing, abusing many people), the leaders of the US (UK and the like) should be brought to justice and prosecuted as war criminals (as they’re war criminals no better than Nazi war criminals, they’re just as worst war criminals as Adolf Hitler.Human rights violations in the form of physical, psychological, and sexual abuse, including torture, rape, sodomy and homicide of prisoners held in the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq: These acts were committed by personnel of the United States Army together with additional US governmental agencies.Amnesty International condemned the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia, which they confirm killed 400 civilians (some sources place this figure at over 1,000) in what it claims were violations of international law and war crimes, due to deliberate targeting of civilian infrastructure and indiscriminate attacks, with lack of precautionary measures taken to prevent civilian casualties.No Gun Ri Massacre during the Korean War in which an undetermined number of South Korean civilians were killed by soldiers of the U.S. 7th Cavalry Regiment.Dr. Garth Nicolson, uncovers evidence that the biological agents used during the Gulf War had been manufactured in Houston, Boca Raton and tested on prisoners in the Texas Department of Corrections.More than 1500 six-month old black and hispanic babies in Los Angeles are given an "experimental" measles vaccine that had never been licensed for use in the United States. CDC later admits that parents were never informed that the vaccine being injected to their children was experimental.Department of Defense admits that, despite a treaty banning research and development of biological agents, it continues to operate research facilities at 127 facilities and universities around the nation. The Tuskegee Syphilis Study: 200 black men diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and instead are used as human guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and symptoms of the disease. They all subsequently die from syphilis, their families never told that they could have been treated.The noble principle of nuclear non-proliferation and the steadfast moral conviction are also bluntly violated when the US signed nuclear co-operation treaty with India when India (the only known country with nuclear weapons) openly refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty….….the list goes on and on…. Leopards don’t change their spots: US (UK and the like) are murderers: they’re emperors without clothes and simply they’ve no moral authorities at all to lecture/dictate others how to behave/act. The US (UK and the like) believe in the strong bullying and killing the weak (in fact this is their core believe). It is time to send a clear and unambiguous message that the world community will not allow them to intimidate/bully the weak. Iran, North Korea are poor and weak but they’ve strong will to stand up and fight this US (UK and the like) belligerence and bullying. The US has the largest number of deadly nuclear weapons (and no hesitation to use them to attack others) yet the US is demanding others not to have any nuclear weapons. Every country has the right to defend itself. If the US (the most powerful country in the world) needs nuclear weapons to defend itself, then surely a weak country (such as Iran, North Korea) even more cogently needs nuclear weapons to defend itself against the belligerent powerful countries like US. If the United States can never accept a nuclear-armed Iran or North Korea, then likewise, a sovereign Iran or North Korea can never accept US bullying and give up its sovereign right to develop nuclear technology. This kind of powerful countries bullying the weak countries is so contemptible and it is simply not acceptable. The bottom-line is simple: Despite all the rhetoric and beautiful arguments, The US (UK and the like) are belligerent and untrustworthy. They will carry knives behind their backs and when you’re not careful, they’ll simply slaughter you without mercy. Mr Obama, if you have any ounce of honesty and conscience, if you believe in a world free of nuclear weapons, if you’re hellbent to stop others to develop nuclear weapons, it is time to get rid of all the US nuclear weapons which will set a good example for others to follow. Being unprincipled, being morally bankrupt, being a hypocrite, being a murderer, US has lost its credibility and legitimacy to lecture/dictate others. But worse than that, having lost its credibility and legitimacy, the US continues its belligerence to bully Iran, North Korea. Not contending to bully Iran, North Korea alone, the US wants other countries (UK, Japan, etc.) to gang up to bully Iran, North Korea together, impose sanctions, etc. (typical US behaviour) Iran, North Korea (small, weak, poor and backward nations) should be applauded to stand up resolutely against the US (a big, strong, powerful, rich and advanced country) bullying and belligerence. So, the US is a hero or a thug? The answer is obvious. The murder of the unarmed Osama is never going to solve the terrorist problem that the world is facing. This “an-eye-for-an-eye” belligerence simply reflects the US (UK and the like) are as much terrorists/extremists as Al-Qaida are being accused as terrorists/extremists. The US hands are full of Osama’s blood. The martyrdom will be the rallying cry in the Muslim world to stand up and fight. We can all see the ulterior motives of US (UK and the like). Instead of using US military might to engage in an-eye-for-an-eye belligerent attacks, the US will be better served to use soft power to engage in sustainable and profitable economic developments (broadly and widely) in these countries that will benefit these countries and the investors (win-win situation). The jobs, the prosperity and the opportunities (created by broad and wide economic developments) will lead to people busy making money, terrorists and extremists will simply dwindle to insignificance. Of course, all these economic developments must be based on a basic principle: “The common interests of a society are best served by the pursuit of individual interests on a level playing field (which must be open and transparent) under the framework of the rule of law (which must be efficient and non-corrupt) with a certain degree of social responsibility and social justice”. Also, you must have good, clean and efficient government. You must have stability. With stability and good policies, it will encourage investments, economic developments, creating jobs for the people. With economic growth and full employment, the people and the country will create more wealth. With more wealth and resources, the people and the country can afford to invest more in education, health care, infra-structure etc….leading to higher productivity and more economic growth and wealth creation. This will lead to a virtuous circle of higher productivity, higher efficiency, more growth, more wealth, more stable society. But the US (UK and the like) are adamant to put the cart before the horse and violently pursue an-eye-for-an-eye attacks with vengeance. As more and more people becoming wealthier, enjoying higher standard of living, we increase the chances of people resolving their conflicts peacefully without resorting to violence. This is the virtuous circle that we should have, not the vicious circle of an-eye-for-an-eye endless hatred, endless attacks and endless counter-attacks. When US (UK and the like) talk, you can see they lie through their teeth with rhetoric and articulation of beautiful (but hollow) words with ulterior motives. You cannot trust US (UK and the like), pure and simple. US belligerent “an eye for an eye” revenge is sowing the seeds of endless hatred, endless attacks and endless counter-attacks. Mahatma Gandhi is right: An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. The US (UK and the like) are happy to see the whole world blind. Report Recommend cecile10 Today 08:27 AM .....zzzzzzzzzzz Report Recommend tl669 Today 04:40 AM Recommended by 4 people Again, the US shows its true colors. The US now threatens to use veto power to deny Palestinians’ lawful right to be represented in the UN. What kind of US is this? As the US threatens to use veto power to deny Palestinians’ lawful right to be represented in the UN, it is even more cogent for the Palestinians (and Middle East people) to stand firm and united to fight this belligerent US intimidation and threat to quash the Palestinians’ aspirations. It also simply shows that the US is prepared to proudly abuse its veto power (now we wonder if the US deserves to be given this veto power?) Leopards don’t change their spots: US (UK and the like) are murderers: they’re emperors without clothes. The US (UK and the like) believe in the strongs bullying and killing the weaks (in fact this is their core believe). They are prepared to sell their grandmothers to achieve their aims with no remorse and no conscience. When US (UK and the like) talk, you can see they lie through their teeth with rhetoric and articulation of beautiful (but hollow) words with ulterior motives. They are experts in lying. You cannot trust US (UK and the like), pure and simple. They want the rest of the world remain weak and vulnerable, living in abject poverty and diseases so that they can continue to dominate, ridicule and control the rest with disdain. The Palestinians have suffered enough. The more the US threatens, the more determined the Palestinians must be to fight the abusive US for their lawful right to be represented in the UN. And always remember: Each time you trust US (UK and the like), each time you will be cheated and slaughtered. So be very careful when you’re dealing with US (UK and the like). The Palestinians simply cannot afford to lose their homeland and to be denied their lawful right to be represented in the UN. It simply shows how insincere US (UK and the like) are. Report Recommend Dr_Drug 3 minutes ago The Palestinian's lawful right to be represented at the UN? What law is that? The one that denies Kurdish representation. Or Tibetan? Ironic seeing that Turkey and China support this nonsense (not the statehood per se, just the way the Palestinians intend to achieve it by abandoning negotiations). Report Recommend JehudahBenIsrael Today 04:39 AM Recommended by 5 people The Quartet (UN, US, EU, Russia) is likely to propose a basis for negotiations: A Palestinian state based on the 1949 armistice lines (dubbed wrongly '1967 borders') with the nation-state of the Jewish people, Israel. In all likelyhood, such a proposal will be accepted by Israel. And in all likelyhood such a proposal will be rejected, again, by the PLO. If so, the question is, why? For a simple reason: The PLO refuses categorically to ever accept Israel's right to be, to exist as the independent nation-state of the Jewish people. Also, the PLO refuses, categorically, to accept any peace treaty as the end of the conflict and the end of all future demands. Thus, one must ask: Why forego peace? And, is peace and an independent state in the now disputed territories the true goal of the PLO? The answer is found in the PLO's Charter that reflects the thrust of this movement!!!!! Report Recommend cecile10 Today 08:33 AM Recommended by 1 person //in all likelihood such a proposal will be rejected, again, by the PLO// No reason not to offer, though. I'd give it a whirl. Whatever the result - we'll have made progress or learned something. Clearly, though, any proposal to be acceptable would have to be for a totally independent sovereign state. Report Recommend JehudahBenIsrael 1 minute ago Their tactics have been, for decades: receive an offer, reject it, talk more and expect the offer to begin with the previous one rejected and so on. Thus, the demand: Any offer must expect that the end game, a peace treaty, will include accepting Israel's right to be, to exist as the independent nation-state of the Jewish people, and accepting a peace treaty as the end of the conflict and the end of all future demands. The PLO object to these points categorically, which tells us a thing or two about their long term intent...!! Report Recommend JehudahBenIsrael Today 04:59 AM Recommended by 4 people P.S. Please note, such a proposal regarding the 1949 armistice lines will be of course contrary to UN Security Council Resolution, 242, without any consideration to the "secure and recognized boundaries" of the future Israel's border called for by 242!! 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